0000003180 00000 n Similarly, Monsanto has the rights to Better Boy, one of my regular tomatoes. While it may not be the case for many people here on Gardenweb, there is generally a huge disconnect between the people and their food. Monsanto and the other companies you mention, are basically in the biotech field. [5][8] However, Wilson's health was poor, and in 1877 he sold the operation to Charles Copeland Morse and A. L. Is that your point of view? PDF Monsanto's Seed Company Subsidiaries - Food & Water Watch That's fine, but that does confirm my conclusion that we are not a good fit for a conversation and it has not been constructive, for me. Pupilla - I'm sorry to tell you this, but I don't find an explanation in your post at all. I do not think my emotions or anything I believe or present as testimonials makes any difference to others. I have not read it all because I am not able to delve too much into it at this point in time. Where are you all buying your seeds online? I need to switch - Reddit I have not responded to each point you've made because my posts would become much too long. How to Avoid GMO/GEO Owl Creek Farm 0000005445 00000 n Most gardeners were quick to heap praise on their favorite seed companies and their . After only your very first paragraph, I am already disagreeing with everything youve said. Thanks your thoughts prarie. Ferry Morse Seeds & Spores - Walmart . Here are some articles that should be reliable From Mother Earth News - 35 years in business, http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/where-to-buy-non-gmo-seeds-zm0z15fmzsor.aspx, Resources for Taking Action on GMO Foods 2014, http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/gmo-foods-resources-ze0z1409zcwil.aspx. Citrus Browning disease to me is not a philosophical worry, it is an economic, cultural, and very real problem today that may force me to make a decision on a particular instance of a particular GMO. I disagree that a better understanding of 'an issue' is gotten by simply 'getting the word out' with such low quality, false and misleading information with an agenda behind it described above as fear-mongering. Does Ferry-Morse have a catalog? Yes, your original objection about the link that was inaccurate, was an early part of the topic being discussed. Maybe it was her fault for misunderstanding something or maybe it was the fault of whatever she read, but the fact is that all the vague (or downright inaccurate), sensationalist, and/or fear mongering information regarding GMO's and Monsanto that is out there is not really helping anything. The 10 Best Seed Companies for Heirloom and Non-GMO Seeds The Ferry-Morse Seed Company is a supplier of seeds, and was at one time the largest such company in the world. McKenzie is Canada's #1 seed packet company. [7], Meanwhile, in 1874, R. W. Wilson began a seed-producing company based in Santa Clara, California. 0000002085 00000 n And for the sake of argument, lets say that Monsanto is not now selling GMO seed to home gardeners. Kellogg. 2. rareseeds Also known as Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds, rareseeds is a company offering some of the more rare heirloom varieties out there. I am not here to play games with words or be tripped up or trip anyone up. That's okay Ed. Certainly enough to raise concern for anyone willing to consider it and have a starting point to better understand it.". [11], In 2005, Groupe Limagrain sold Ferry-Morse to Jiffy International. ], To clarify - I believe there are still many people who are unaware of GMOs and what they are, so whenever that subject comes up, it makes people at least aware of it. Many of our brands were founded in the mid-1800's and have been trusted by generations. Have you read the FEDCO companys catalog? As to questioning your intentions - I had reason to question your intentions, what do you call this statement you made? I do not grasp the gravity of GMO seeds? The facts that it benefits them do not prove a point and are not intended to prove anything about Monsanto's commercial practices or the safety of GMOs. You have peppered your comments with plenty of complaints and labels of what I have had to say. Since 1897, gardeners have trusted American Seed to provide the best value in the marketplace. Anyone that is interested in what they are up to, can easily find that information. From 1856 onward, Ferry Morse seeds have been supplying the freshest and best garden seeds for the home gardens of American gardeners. Native Seeds/S.E.A.R.C.H. and aside from seeds, I don't use the kind of products they make any way. Here is the original post which drew my attention and the topic I was staying on as much as possible: "If you want to avoid using GMO seeds, here is a list of seed companies owned by Monsanto. Do you realize that many people already are avoiding all soy and corn because of the difficulty now of finding non GMO soy and corn? If they discontinue their variety they know me and thousands of others will kick their butt. That burns me up, because this tomato is a pretty good one, just like Big Beef and Better Boy are good conventional products for the home garden. This is what you originally said and what I quoted verbatim: If you would like to clarify or interpret differently what you said (specifically the bolded part), that is fine and your right and no shame in that, I do it all the time and I do change opinions all the time too. I don't read their marketing politics or missions because all that is important to me is a product I am comfortable growing. I looked and this is the one Mother Earth News article that I was thinking of in particular. It is possible that some companies are not eager to advertise what they own. Please be respectful of my time. You dont know what to think about my question? Always have for 30+ years. That is why there is a plethora of graphs and guides online trying to keep track of what they actually own. If you wanted to discuss this topic, based on debate rules and theories, you should have mentioned that in the beginning and sought my agreement to discuss accordingly. American Seed offers high quality products with a goal of remaining affordable for consumers. 0000003294 00000 n [5] Morse built the company up, and in 1884 bought out Kellogg and incorporated as C.C. [2] Let me get this straight. There has been more proven environmental damage caused by planting invasives, over-use of fertilizers, and habitat destruction then GMOs. If any of that information is inaccurate, maybe someone on this thread can point out what it is. For instance, the Irish potato famine (which actually effected almost the entire continent of Europe) and the more recent (1970s) famine caused by almost total annihilation of the wheat crop in the USSR. This logical flaw is similar to "Denying a Conjunct" (wiki link where it is defined). And with their history of trying to influence legislation, at some point, once they have a monopoly of owning seed companies, then what? To me, you cant go in opposite directions at the same time. It was established in 1896 by Dr. Albert Edward McKenzie, and claims to supply 60% of Canada's packet seed market. They genetically modify seed. If home gardening seed is a small portion of the seed they sell, then targeting commercial seed sales seems to be the way to go. ***If any company you like is on the list, research their ownership yourself.***. I expect the same good faith from you.. I am comfortable with my reply, and understand where you are coming from. Syngenta - This is the first I am hearing about it. That GMO seeds were only sold commercially. McKenzie continues to set industry standards while being conscious and responsive to the growing concerns involved with food: cost, quality and safety. I haven't bought a herbicide or insecticide. And I wonder if anyone has thought of trying to convince shareholders to stop supporting Big Agriculture? They are reliable, trustworthy seeds you know will sprout and grow when you want them to. If someone could only convince farmers to stop using GMO seeds. That should do it. As a Floridian, I am concerned that conventional breeding of oranges will not save the Florida orange industry from Citrus Greening disease in time (or at all) and "a day without Florida orange juice for me is like a day without sunshine". Two people posted about two seed companies on the list. You disagreed that I said "a better understanding of an issue was gotten, simply by 'getting the word out'", which was not what I said. Ferry-Morse Basil Sweet Italian Herb Plant Seeds (1 Pack) - Seed Gardening, Full Sun. If you are attempting to correct something that you believe is misleading about someone's post, than do so. No problem. 0000002615 00000 n $1.96. That is the best way to find out who owns a company. 0000510282 00000 n 0000001737 00000 n 0000518594 00000 n You will find it is considered baloney by reliable fact-checkers that published a peer reviewed study which concluded the the rate of suicide has no correlation with the cited GMOs in India. There is no question I want a conventionally bred product by a smaller company if there is a real choice, because it keeps conventional breeding strong and competitive and goes against the trends of consolidation which large companies represent. Youre concerned with a few tomato varieties but yet, you cant seem to grasp the concern opponents of GMO seeds have about the potential loss of ALL unadulterated seed that supplies the worlds food suppy? I am not here for an in depth debate on GMOs since the premise of the thread is how to avoid GMO seeds. I was already questioning whether the list would be credible or not. If you want to avoid using GMO seeds, here is a list of seed companies owned by Monsanto. I am not concerned about losing varieties of seeds as you are. 'Any talk of avoiding the seeds for purchase is circular logic - intended to manipulate people by bullying the and using fear as a weapon'. :). This link gives an explanation of their position on Monsanto and GMO seeds: http://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/monsanto.htm. Are these smaller seed companies you are concerned for, owned by Monsanto? Not all "progress" is a good thing and we often dive headfirst into it without truly knowing the full ramifications. If you have done any research at all, you have to be aware of things that Monsanto has done and is doing, that you dont agree with. You see diseases developing, like the Citrus Greening disease, and you think, wellmaybe GMO and Monsanto will rescue us from these. You're right there are plenty of companies competing for worst company status. I personally have no opinion about Monsanto, except to roll my eyes when people scream about how they are going to control the food supply and kill us all.
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